tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post8315466414487740587..comments2024-03-01T00:28:37.354-08:00Comments on B: Four rulesBlake Andrewshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07187987264904729243noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-7107605492675577622010-10-27T07:52:37.573-07:002010-10-27T07:52:37.573-07:00In response to a few of the comments, I agree #1 i...In response to a few of the comments, I agree #1 is hard. Finding your talent can be a lifelong process. Maybe a better way to think about it is stumbling on your compulsion. If you really feel a need to do something, that might be a clue you were meant to do it. Then again (gambling, drugs, tv) it might not.Blake Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07187987264904729243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-28882006939718263292010-10-27T07:13:23.328-07:002010-10-27T07:13:23.328-07:00I totally agree with Droid. I've made it my po...I totally agree with Droid. I've made it my policy that if someone ever wants to give me money for photography services, the first thing I tell them is that they get little to no say in what to expect if they want me to do the gig. <br /><br />I want them to buy my style, otherwise they're just renting my gear and knowledge on how to operate it.K. Praslowiczhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256037792557370609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-50262342780403371522010-10-27T05:24:13.351-07:002010-10-27T05:24:13.351-07:00Yeah for Photo Buyer Mike!!! I love that someone ...Yeah for Photo Buyer Mike!!! I love that someone called it out about online blasting, twitter, promotion and not thinking about photographs that matter.<br /><br />I found a bunch of very funny xtranormal videos related to his post.<br /><br />This one calls it out on the money.<br /><br />Two superhero photographers arguing who is the king of all photo.<br /><br />http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7358235/<br /><br />Thanks for an interesting and valuable read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-73998723316848125802010-10-26T13:14:19.967-07:002010-10-26T13:14:19.967-07:00Photographers that promote themselves heavily onli...Photographers that promote themselves heavily online are a real turn off for me.<br />I don't need to know everything they think or say at every moment of the day. <br />I don't need to be constantly pounded over the head with their mediocre photographs. I prefer that a photographer shows restraint. Heavily edit your photographs and keep your mouth zipped. There is no way I would buy a book from a photographer who's inane, insane quotes that I read online are rattling around in my brain.<br />What if Helen Levitt or Garry Winogrand used Twitter, bragging about the photos they made, and the equipment they owned? Would you still be interested in them? I would not.<br />People today have such a huge sense of entitlement and visions of grandeur. They think they've reached a point where they can successfully mimic a well known photographers style and believe they should be rewarded for it. They wonder why they don't get accepted to various internet groups or receive the same praise as HCB, GW, or JM. They think to themselves, "I made a photo of a white woman and a black man carrying a monkey in Central Park, where are the accolades for me?".<br />Sites like HCSP on flickr and in-public should be avoided like the plaque. They're merely electronic cliche factories that narrowly define the term street photography. Come on, how many photos of dogs on the beach or people walking in front of billboards do we need?Photo Buyer Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-10676235390274873752010-10-26T12:59:18.521-07:002010-10-26T12:59:18.521-07:00From my Mom:
I would add a number 5 to your list,...From my Mom:<br /><br />I would add a number 5 to your list, although I realize you had to match the four on Danziger's list. Number 5 would be: continually develop your technique. Tom Knight had a 3 part grading system: one grade for form, one for content, and one for technique. If technique is weak, the work will get a pass no matter how great the concept. If technique is strong, even a weak concept can squeak thru into acceptability. I think that in modern and post modern art, (and that includes photography, of course) technique is often left begging by the wayside. Jeff Koons and Maurizio Catalan parade around in their suits and hire craftsmen to execute all their work, they just have ideas. They are like the creative people in the advertising agency. Doesn't technique count for something? Peter Palmquist's photos were ordinary in concept, but his impeccable technique carried him a long way.Blake Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07187987264904729243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-34334798983750456702010-10-26T12:36:04.822-07:002010-10-26T12:36:04.822-07:00Outstanding!Outstanding!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-12979594780111561542010-10-26T12:07:56.766-07:002010-10-26T12:07:56.766-07:00aphotoeditor posted something about the Leibovitz ...aphotoeditor posted something about the Leibovitz article too. <br /><br />http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/10/26/you-do-have-to-play-by-the-art-market-rules/<br /><br />“Art is basically what a bunch of collectors and curators say it is, there is no getting around that.”<br /><br />I wish instead of spending money on portfolio reviews and stupid contests, photographers would buy photography books and zines from fellow photographers.BryanFhttp://lapuravidagallery.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-90929412967816422172010-10-26T11:44:50.596-07:002010-10-26T11:44:50.596-07:00... for me,question mark for first rule. B. how di...... for me,question mark for first rule. B. how did you solved " talent " problem? <br />"But before proceeding with photography, make sure that's your thing." - how one can know is he on the right track?Petar Dimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13272647855452093950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-34078070378169685372010-10-26T09:59:56.147-07:002010-10-26T09:59:56.147-07:00We don't associate with the creative types. We...We don't associate with the creative types. We have a Scrabble club. We associate with people with babies.Ms. Pearlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-80499295749527162442010-10-26T09:58:11.800-07:002010-10-26T09:58:11.800-07:00Do NOT read beauty magazines, they will only make ...Do NOT read beauty magazines, they will only make you feel ugly.Dilbert Fizzelsteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-86053474142674572882010-10-26T08:43:27.028-07:002010-10-26T08:43:27.028-07:00I'm sure many have seen this but BryanF linked...I'm sure many have seen this but BryanF linked to an interesting article a few days ago about Annie Leibovitz:<br /> <br />http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/76af3c7a-dbf2-11df-af09-00144feabdc0.html<br /><br />It really digs into the potential conflict between photo skills and marketing skills.Blake Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07187987264904729243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-50556309060638320292010-10-26T08:33:17.356-07:002010-10-26T08:33:17.356-07:00My only rule for photography is to never get a job...My only rule for photography is to never get a job in photography, because chances are you will stop shoot for yourself.<br /><br />Free will is an important aspect of meaningful art. You give up your free will as soon as you are hired.Droidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-31487642708211520312010-10-26T06:16:50.176-07:002010-10-26T06:16:50.176-07:00Creating the work and selling the work requires tw...Creating the work and selling the work requires two very different skill sets. It is rare to find them in one person. Many artists/photographers should not spend hours on social media because it drains time and creative energy for what they were meant to do - create. This is the reason we have agents, galleries, & dealers. Having said that, I think the ease of setting up blogs makes it very easy for even the socially adverse to show their work. Which enables others who appreciate the skill and effort to help them sell it.Karen Desnickhttp://www.metroframe.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-28512867382425699142010-10-26T02:33:22.472-07:002010-10-26T02:33:22.472-07:00I love your blog.
Your first rule is tough. After...I love your blog.<br /><br />Your first rule is tough. After all it takes a lot of time and effort to become good at something. I wonder if it's possible to know in advance if someone has the talent? Maybe it's good enough to try...?<br /><br />The marketing hype has become overwhelming on many blogs. It's distracting. I think one reason is that many photographers are looking for alternative ways to make money and offer workshops for a group of amateurs who are attracted by hype of "becoming a pro".<br /><br />The value of friends is also very important for photography itself. Interesting friends = interesting photographs...Lukehttp://www.lumilon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-30536286062848114282010-10-25T20:28:56.236-07:002010-10-25T20:28:56.236-07:00Trying to "break into photography" is no...Trying to "break into photography" is no different to trying to break into any other artistic pursuit. <br /><br />It takes a measure of skill, a good deal of hard work and a shit load of luck.<br /><br />I've learned the most about that side of photography from a busking friend of mine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-60108128565864320792010-10-25T16:42:03.566-07:002010-10-25T16:42:03.566-07:00I like your list a lot. And it's true what you...I like your list a lot. And it's true what you say. Photography has largely become a game of who can market themselves the best. Marketing has never been my strong suit.<br /><br />But I got lucky. I quit my last pro photo job in 2008, and I've finally found a dayjob to take care of the bills yet allows me plenty of time to work on my art as well.<br /><br />The first year or so I tried to play the marketing game. Just didn't work. People simply aren't all that interested in the type of photos I produce.<br /><br />So I said to heck with it. I've set myself up a fairly inexpensive blog/website and I shoot photos for me. If no one else likes them, oh well.<br /><br />Some day I plan to self-publish some of my work using a Blurb type company. The advantage to working this way is it costs very little money.<br /><br />Anyway, that fourth item on the original list is pure baloney anyway ... "there is nothing new under the sun ..."Nick David Wrighthttp://blog.nickdavidwright.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4935046131385109105.post-9626721646953458712010-10-25T16:13:20.435-07:002010-10-25T16:13:20.435-07:00Yeah I agree Blake. I guess Danziger's talking...Yeah I agree Blake. I guess Danziger's talking about scrounging a living. <br /><br />But I still love those stories of single minded artists working year after year with no real validation from anyone ... Gary Stochl, Vincent Van Gogh, etc ...<br />Staying true to themselves and letting the market, or trend of the day go hang itself. <br /><br />I'm a big fan of small 'm' madness.<br /><br />Stay true to what feels right and floor that ute until you run right out of road.Andrew Starkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18271120834632122902noreply@blogger.com